You’ve set up a false dichotomy that has no bearing on the real world. The premise is an empty thought experiment that Buddhism has no place for. The precepts are there for a reason: they are to catch our own sophistry an Awesome Who Feeds A Hungry Animal Feeds His Own Soul Shirt. The precepts are there for a reason: they are to catch our own sophistry and self-soldiers. Yes, the precepts are to be maintained regardless of the situation. This means we can’t use fabrication to fool ourselves into breaking them because it will lead to. I don’t see how that has no bearing on the real world. If I can frame it better, in that situation, should I follow the precepts knowing following them won’t extend that person’s life, or won’t “save” that person’s life?
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So it’s in our best interests to do whatever I can do as long as it doesn’t break the precepts and isn’t unskillful. So it’s in our best interests to do whatever I can do as long as it doesn’t break the precepts and isn’t unskillful. The precepts are for you to train in order to find the grossest an Awesome Who Feeds A Hungry Animal Feeds His Own Soul Shirt. No one is passing judgment on another layperson here for failing to keep a precept. I certainly am not blameless in my behavior. Your good friend Anne Frank and you were having a meal when Nazi came banging on the door. I am the owner of my actions (Kamma), heir to my actions, born of my actions, related through my actions. And have my actions as my arbitrator.
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Other killing does not land you in hell. It lands them in hell. You keeping the precepts even in mortal danger, however, might land you in heaven – depending on the rest of your own karma. Maybe. I’m not disagreeing just stating what I’ve gathered so far. It’s rhetorical because we both know it’s not. So why are you busying yourself with these questions? The two of us are busying ourselves answering them, and we are consistently doing it in an Awesome Who Feeds A Hungry Animal Feeds His Own Soul Shirt. Just like we are not expected to walk North and nothing. But the North, regardless of the obstacles in front of us, in the same way.
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