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Criticism: average career stats unfairly hurt guys who play a lot post-prime and SLIGHTLY hurt modern stars who are trained to take it easy some nights during the regular season. That being said, in terms of Bron Bron v. MJ, you’d probably find the exact same thing if you did a 5 or 8-year peak average. I see, I missed the argument you were making. The only real Nice There Is No Santa Only Zuul Ugly Christmas Shirt and longevity. Not only has he already played nearly three seasons more than J and clearly has more good years in him. I agree that it’s hard to quantify this in relation to the best seasons. When Pippen matured into Pippen, that took some of the assist load off Jordan. But he still regularly averaged more than 5 a night. For his career, MJ averaged 5.3 APG, and LeBron 7.4.

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